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Online Film Critics Society: Interview with Soundtrack Composer Mark Snow

??-??-1999
Online Film Critics Society
Hearing Movies: The Soundtrack as an Essential Ingredient of the Film Experience
Crazy in Alabama: Interview with Soundtrack Composer Mark Snow
Prairie Miller

Best known for his sci-fi musical enhancement of X-Files, Disturbing Behavior and now Harsh Realm, composer Mark Snow embraces a new challenge in harmonizing dramatically and emotionally with early ’60’s political and social themes for the movie Crazy In Alabama. Snow, who’s been writing scores for movies and television for the past twenty four years, was confronted with the task in this latest film of negotiating a monumental musical universe that included Dixieland, big orchestral and ambient electronic sounds, and solo bluegrass fiddle.

Snow spoke to me in a phone conversation about the unusual musical evolution of Crazy In Alabama. “There was a scene in the middle of the movie, a beautiful montage scene, somewhat sad and very poignant,” he said. “Actually Bob Dylan was talking to Antonio about giving him a song for this scene. Anyway, time got of the essence, so that didn’t happen.”

“So the first thing that I wrote for the movie was this piece which turned out to be the main music theme of the movie. Antonio liked it very much, and so that sort of broke the ice for us. Then we took it from there, but it was a very collaborative situation. And it worked out beautifully, with a lot of eclectic music.”

Snow described the experience of switching creatively from X-Files to something quite a bit more grounded in the past. “Oh, it was like I needed a vacation in a way, and Crazy In Alabama was a sort of fantastic musical vacation,” he told me. “I wanted to work on something that would be as far away from that as I could. And I did have a good feeling for this music, so it came along at a great time.”

Because Crazy In Alabama is so richly steeped in social history, I asked Snow how he went about selecting music to connect with those issues. “It’s a good question, and I think you have to be very discreet about the music with themes like that,” he answered. “Because if it’s too over the top, it takes away from any of the reality of the situation, you know, the good, the bad and the ugly. And in this case it was mostly the ugliness of the ’60’s civil rights scene.”

“And that had to be handled with a sensitivity, and also dignity, but played down in a way,” he continued. “You know, not to turn it into a cartoon, or some misrepresentation of it. But rather something simple and direct, where people could feel the reality of it without being turned off to it.”

How does a composer like Snow go about generating a period feel through his music? “In this movie, there were a couple of moments that were somewhat dreamlike and very ambiant. And this electronic soundscape seemed to work out really well with that. But most of it was orchestral, and acoustic instruments that seemed to serve the piece well.”

“It wasn’t difficult thinking about the period,” he told me. “It was more about what was the right music for the emotion and the scene, the interacting of the characters. The period wasn’t that far back. So there was nothing to indicate that it had to be a period sound.”

The dual parallel themes of racial protest and the liberating impulses of an abused wife (Melanie Griffith) posed an unusual and stimulating challenge for Snow. “That’s why there is an eclectic feeling to the music,” Snow explained. “There’s this solo violin mixed with Dixieland and jazz. And then when it needed to be more emotional, then it was. And it all seemed to work with a consistency, and a main sound that threads the story musically.”

Snow, a retrospective of whose work was recently released on Sonic Images’ The Snow Files, was reared in Brooklyn. He started out as an oboe player after being trained at Juilliard. He talked about his career turn into composing. “I really loved the idea of writing music rather than playing,” he said. “And as a player in an orchestra, I learned all the facets of orchestral music, and I wanted to figure out how the composers did it. So I studied the scores and listened to all the recordings.”

“Then I went to see the movie Planet Of The Apes, and it was very exciting because it was a Jerry Goldsmith score, and it was very modern and avant garde. So it was really inspiring to think, hey, they’re using that kind of music in movies and TV shows, let’s go for it.”

Snow’s passion for bringing drama to life with music sent him on a journey to Hollywood. “I didn’t have any work, but after six months I got one little job which led to another, and so forth and so on,” he recalled. “But the excitement of what I do is that moment of connection when you’re working for a director, and everyone’s very tense before they hear the music. They’re wondering, is this guy going to do it?”

“You know, it’s not like a script. Obviously a script is a lot less abstract than music. So that moment when they walk into your studio or to the scoring stage, and they hear that first note, hopefully they like it. And there’s nothing you can say to make them like it. They’re just going to hear it and like it or not like it. And if you make that connection when they love it, that’s a big thrill.”

Part of generating that connection involves a special creative dialogue with collaborators. “You’ve heard the directions of the filmakers, and they might say, well we’d like this scene to be green or blue, and make it this or that. And I’ll say, okay, I think I know what you mean. And I think the most successful people who do what I do, understand that kind of abstract language, and they can put it into music and make that connection.”

“When Melanie Griffith came in and heard the theme with the orchestra on the scoring stage at SONY, she just stopped everything and started screaming at the orchestra, ‘That’s great! You people are wonderful.’ And she came over to me and gave me a big hug and kiss. That doesn’t happen every day, I’ll tell you that.”

“You know, Melanie and Antonio lived with this picture for so long,” said Snow. “It’s very personal, like their baby, and it has nothing to do with a paycheck for them whatsoever. And they entrust someone to do all these various crafts involved.”

Snow also revealed a little of the down side of his work. “I think the worst is being typecast,” he said. “Like oh, that’s the X-Files guy. He’d be no good for our romantic comedy. And working with people you don’t see eye to eye with. You just have to have a lot of inner strength to keep going.”

The unrelenting and swift advances in technology are also formidable. “The different palettes for scoring have quadrupled times a million. It used to be that you did it just one way, with an orchestra or live instruments. Now with all the digital technology, the samples of live instruments and sounds are amazing, absolutely incredible. And some of the things we do electronically sound so real, that people don’t know the difference. But every composer has a different story, and no two are alike.”

“And as far as composing, time is one of the biggest problems. You know, they tell you we have this film and because of the schedule, you have a week to do it. Yikes! Well, that’s definitely a problem. Then the beginning stages of writing a score are always the worst, trying to come up with a theme, or an idea or sound for what this should be. The clock is ticking, and it’s a pressure cooker.”

“But then it’s real elation when you unlock the key to what the music should be, and then it starts the flow from there. But it’s a tough gig.”

Source: Prairie Miller; The O.F.C.S. [www.ofcs.org/article14.html]

The Millennial Comet: Interview with Mark Snow

Dec-18-1998
The Millennial Comet [Vol. 2, No. 5]
Interview with Mark Snow
Brian A. Dixon

Interview conducted and edited by “Millennial Comet” staff writer and Editor-in-Chief Brian A. Dixon (WackiDixon@aol.com).

Here is a man who, to X-Files and Millennium fans, requires no introduction. From day one of both series he has been composing some of the most powerful underscore music we could ever hope for. He’s used sounds in some of the moodiest, most atmospheric, and most frightening manners possible. That man is, of course, Mr. Mark Snow.

You’ll find his name in the credits of every Millennium episode made. A powerful part of the Ten-Thirteen crew, Mr. Snow is the creator of the wailing violin sounds that are the very soul of Millennium’s onscreen presence. He’s given passion to Frank and Catherine’s most emotional scenes and added an edge of excitement to each serial killer show-down. Without the sounds of Mark Snow running underneath it all, Millennium would NOT be the show it is today. It would not be the series we’ve come to know and love. To say that his creation influences Millennium’s very being would not be an exaggeration. The element he adds to the dramatic events is invaluable.

So, without further introduction, I proudly present my recent conversation with the man responsible for giving so much to Millennium….

MC: “Millennial Comet”
MS: Mark Snow

COMING OF THE MILLENNIUM

MC: What is your official title when working with Millennium?

MS: Mark Snow – composer of the underscore music for the TV series Millennium.

MC: You had already been working with Chris Carter and 1013 for some time on The X-Files… what was your first reaction and initial thoughts when Millennium was first proposed to you as a new series and began undergoing development?

MS: Chris Carter wanted a feeling of hope and horror for the Millennium theme and underscore music. So, I thought a melancholy, celtic feel would be right since so many of the first shows had an early or medievil religious themes… and for the theme, the contrast of the solo violin (Hope) over the dark sustains and percussion (horror) of the accompianment.

MC: Was there any specific inspiration for the “Millennium” theme song? How was it recorded?

MS: Chris Carter sent over a CD of Kiley Minogue (Celtic fiddle stuff), so that was my initial inspiration. I had a live violinist play over my electronic track.

MC: What sets the overall tone or musical feel for the series when you’re writing a piece of music for Millennium?

MS: The slow, deliberate brooding Frank Black seems to set the tone of the action and therefore the music tone.

DIVIDED ATTENTION

MC: How, if at all, do you try to separate your work on Millennium and The X-Files?

MS: The Millennium music is simpler and more folk, celtic, modal ancient sounding music than X-Files. X-Files in general is more modern avante garde sounding, with symphonic traditional overtones.

MC: What other shows or movies have you worked on recently?

MS: The X-Files movie and Disturbing Behavior directed by David Nutter, who directed the pilot of Millennium.

MC: Is it difficult to work on two or more television series at a time? Do you find that it limits or stifles your creativity?

MS: No, the shows are so different, and basically very well done (some of best on TV), that they’re usually very inspiring and different from week to week. They also seem to be shows that count on the music for its complete effect, unlike a show like L.A. Law which relies on dialogue mostly. Working on both shows does not limit my creativity but actually inspires it.

MC: Who are your favorite musical groups or artists to listen to?

MS: Eagle Eyed Cherry, Metallica, Foo Fighters, Suzanne Vega, Natalie Merchant, Crash Test Dummies, Chumbawumba, Tracy Bonham, to name a few.

MILLENNIAL EVOLUTION

MC: I know that one of the pieces of show music you’ve composed which will always stand out in my mind is the exciting and very different chase music from the climax of The Thin White Line. Do you have a personal favorite piece of music from an episode of Millennium?

MS: The show “Luminary” was a favorite of mine for the music, and more recently “Closure”; the montage cue with Emma at the computer cutting back and forth with Frank at the computer, and the black and white flash backs of Emma as a young girl!

MC: Did you enjoy writing the lighter, more humorous scores for the Darin Morgan comedy episodes of the second season?

MS: Yes! That was a fun change of pace for me, and very enjoyable! Sort of going on a mini-vacation!

MC: With season three we not only got new opening credits sequence images but also a slightly tweaked version of the Millennium theme song. Why was the decision made to alter the theme music for the third season, and how exactly was it changed?

MS: I just added a choral countermelody that was to announce the arrival of the Emma character. Chris Carter’s idea, but very subtle. I don’t know if all listeners hear the differance, but obviously you do! Bravo!

MC: Popular music, in addition to the underscore, has become very important to Millennium. We’ve heard such artists as Bobby Darin, Dean Martin, Patti Smith, America, Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, the Talking Heads, and Zager & Evans highlight some of the most important scenes of the series. What is your view concerning Millennium’s artistic and dramatic use of music?

MS: I think it’s very cool and helps maintain the edgy, fresh hip tone that the creators hoped for. And the fact the these source pieces are so eclectic is a cool thing!

MC: On The X-Files movie you were given the chance to utilize a full orchestra for your soundtrack. How did it feel to use the orchestra, and do you think you’ll be given the same opportunity again anytime for Millennium or X-Files series work?

MS: The big orchestra was a thrill, but absolutely impossible to do on a weekly basis because of the time constraints. Watch for it on next X-Files feature film!!!

MC: Any personal views on Frank’s musical obsession with classic swinger Bobby Darin?

MS: I think that comes from Glen Morgan, he’s the big Darin fan. It also seems consistent with Frank’s generation.

FLASHES OF THE FUTURE

MC: A lot of rumors and strong anticipation follow the idea of a Millennium soundtrack CD similar to The X-Files album “The Truth and the Light”. Can you shed some light on the situation concerning a potential Millennium soundtrack CD?

MS: Two labels are interested in releasing Millennium music. Electra, which did the X-Files score and pop albums, and Sonic Images, a label that specializes in soundtracks. Stay tuned for updates. That’s all the information that I have now.

MC: In regards to the future of Millennium in season three… any special musical pieces you’ve recently composed for upcoming episodes we should be listening for?

MS: Yes… in “Omerta”, the Millennium Xmas show, I really push the envelope by incorporating elements of Opera and classical Choral elements, soloists and groups. I’m very proud of the work I’ve done on this episode, and hope you all enjoy it!

MC: Thank you very much, Mr. Snow, for taking part in this interview and being willing to speak with the Comet. Both myself and all of our fan readers extend our gratitude for being able to look into your world.

MS: Thank you, Brian, and I apologize for taking so long to get this to you!!! I hope you find it interesting and informative!

Source: Brian A. Dixon, The Millennial Comet Vol. 2, No. 5 [members.aol.com/Rings13/Abyss.html], Dec. 18th, 1998

Mixdown Monthly: Mark Snow: The X-Files

Aug-05-1998
Mixdown Monthly
Mark Snow: The X-Files
Andrián Pertout

[Original article here]

Mark Snow

Andrián Pertout speaks with Mark Snow from Los Angeles about life as a screen composer, and the soundtrack to the ‘Fight the Future’ X-Files movie.

Composer and seven-time Emmy nominee Mark Snow’s musical genesis was officially initiated in Brooklyn in his early teens, and with the dual blessing of pianist mother and drummer father, the career of one of film music’s great inspirational forces of the 90s was set in motion. He began as a piano student, and in his early development also embraced the art drumming, although in the years that followed the oboe became his principal artistic voice, and Mark went on to explore its expressive boundaries through performances in Baroque and Renaissance music concerts. It was at New York’s Juilliard School of Music where he developed his compositional skills under the collective guidance of jazz arranger Hall Overton, oboist Melvin Kaplan, 12-tone composer George Tremblay and composer Earl Hagan, and this was also the setting for his meeting and establishment of his future association with Academy award-winning film composer Michael Kamen. In the late sixties the ‘New York Rock n’ Roll Ensemble’ was formed, and together they toured and recorded for the next five years, signing a contract with Atlantic Records. After a short period of producing, in 1974 Mark relocated to Los Angeles where he began writing for film and television. Today he has over seventy TV movie and mini-series credits to his name, which include ‘The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All’, ‘An American Story’ and ‘Something About Amelia’. His most prominent work to date has been ‘The X-Files’ and ‘Millennium’ series directed by Chris Carter, and his latest offering is the soundtrack for ‘The X-Files’ movie. This work presents the sonically awesome marriage of state-of-the-art sampling technology with an eighty-five-piece orchestra, and is bound to further elevate Mark Snow’s musical reverence and worldwide cult status.

How did you initially enter the world of music?

MS: “Well, my parents were musicians. My father was a drummer, my mother was a piano player, and they wanted me to be involved in it and so I started taking piano lessons at thirteen years of age. Then I switched to the oboe of all things, and played that in high school. And then I went to the Juilliard School of Music where I was an oboe player, and played in many orchestras and chamber music groups in New York City, and decided that what I really wanted to do was to be the guy who wrote the music rather than the one who played it. So I started seriously getting into composing, and then my wife had some family in California in the business who had came out here, and six months after we landed I got my first job composing, and slowly but surely it started going. And that’s the short form story of it all.”

What memories do you have today of your years at the Juilliard School of Music, and how do you perceive its influence on your compositional approach?

MS: “That’s a good question because I don’t think a place, a school or an institution can change a person. They can have equipment and some inspiring teachers, but I really believe that when somebody is really, really hell-bent about doing it, or is really interested in it, there’s nobody that can sort of keep you down, and you find ways to do the things that you really want to do. And I think I could take advantage of all wonderful things at the school, with the different teachers and having extra classes, getting friendly with some of the teachers and going to their homes, and soaking up all their experiences. So I really was a sponge wanting to absorb all this stuff. And maybe for someone else it was a bad experience, but for me it was good, although I think it would have been good no matter what the school I was at.”

Do you have a personal list of composers that you regard as a major source of inspiration in the direction of your career?

MS: “As an oboe player, most of the music I played was from the early Classical, Baroque and Renaissance time, and some of those composers were very influential to me. Some of that early music has a very, almost rural, folk, Celtic quality to it which I really love, and after that there are composers like, oh God, the obvious are Handel and Bach, Vivaldi, you know, earlier composers. I also think the great modern composers like Bartók, Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Ravel, Debussy, Schoenberg and Webern have been very influential to me, and I’m sure to a lot of my colleagues as well. And in terms of film composers, I suppose Bernard Hermann and Jerry Goldsmith, and of recent, someone like Thomas Newman, Elliot Goldenthal, these are people that I really admire.”

What is involved in the job of composer for ‘The X-Files’ series on a weekly basis?

MS: “Well, I get a script to read, which just basically gives me an idea of the story but doesn’t really help me start thinking about what the music should be. After that I get a video tape of the cut, final locked version of the episode, and that’s when I start thinking hard about it, when I start improvising in my studio with some of the scenes, and these improvisations start to become more solid and become more formed and well though out. And layers of stuff are added until the final piece in done, and then you go to the next scene, and the next scene, and so forth and so on. And there’s usually about thirty minutes of music in each of these shows, and they usually give me about anywhere from three to six days to do it, depending on how tight the schedule is.”

How do you generally go about turning dramatic elements into musical expression?

MS: “I think you see what goes on, on the screen, and you have an emotional reaction to it. And music is so abstract and so subtle that you could for example get twenty really fine composers in a room, show them the same exact piece of film, and they would have twenty different responses to that, but they would all be excellent. I mean, you might like one more than the other, but they would all be really, really good. That’s always been a wonderful experiment I’d love to do. You know, get the top composers in a room with an orchestra and give them a week to write a five minute piece, and see the different approaches.”

Although your sounds are technologically enhanced, they have obvious natural origins. What synthetic processes do you utilize to create your textures?

MS: “My background really is acoustic, it’s really about writing things down on paper, having the scores copied, and musicians performing them with me conducting the orchestra. So it was only in the last eight years that I’ve gotten into my home studio with my electronic set-up, but because of the way technology is today. It’s so facile, and these things sound so real, because they are real, they’re samples of real instruments. And when I mix those in with some electronic sounds, that’s where I come up with the hopefully cool soundscape of the X-Files. I could have a live violin section, live strings, live woodwinds and live brass, all kinds of electronic keyboards, plus there’s tones of libraries of sounds made with the most unlikely things, and in combination. Like thunder mixed in with a lion’s roar, that’s pitched down three octaves and mixed in with a basketball dropping on the gymnasium floor. And that’s just a simple, small example of how creative one can be.”

In a previous interview you mention how the famous X-Files sound is actually your wife whistling. Is that true?

MS: “Oh yes (laughs). Now I can set the record straight. It’s not my wife whistling after all, but it is an electronic sample of somebody whistling, I’m not exactly sure who. But when I first did it someone said to me, ‘Gee, that can’t be from electronics, it’s gotta be somebody.’ And I thought, ‘Oh, blah blah blah, yeah, yeah my wife!’ Who happens to be a really great whistler, so I guess that went through the wires. But I think I’m man enough now to admit that that was a stretch (laughs).”

What is in your home studio?

MS: “My main instrument is a thing called the ‘Synclavier’, which is a digital recording device. It is basically a piece of architecture that holds many, many millions of sounds and different libraries, which are incredibly easy to call up on the keyboard, and then instantly record into the machine, to play back quickly. I think it’s one of the reasons that I can do the shows quickly, because it’s so facile and elegant. And I have some other samplers that are connected into it as well, so via the MIDI connections I can get all these combinations working pretty quickly. And maybe a third of it is MIDI, the rest of it is digital samples from the Synclavier machine. Then when I finish recording I get my engineer in, and he mixes it down to a small format, you know, DAT tape or digital tape, and that goes out the door.”

Tell me about the soundtrack that you produced for the ‘Fight the Future’ X-Files movie.

MS: “The X-Files ‘Score’ album, yes that is interesting because it has an eighty-five piece orchestra. And you know, live instruments are never in the TV series, so at the moment are only in the film score. The other thing that is interesting and different is that the X-Files theme with the whistling is never used in the TV show as background music, and in the film score it’s used quite a bit, where the orchestra plays it with different harmonies, and you know, fast and slow, and sad, dangerous, different variations of it. So that turned out to be the theme of the movie score, but never used in the TV show.”

How has your approach to the music for Chris Carter’s ‘Millennium’ series differed to that of his ‘The X-Files’ series?

MS: “With Millennium, because of the nature of the show, and since so much of the material of the show is based on sort of medieval and mystical, old, gothic, religious overtones, they wanted something that had a slightly religious, mournful, timeless, somewhat antique sound to it. And I thought using the solo violin playing this somewhat, I don’t know, Celtic, folky type, mournful melody might be a really interesting way to go, and they all loved the idea. And a lot of that music is pretty simple, and stays as much as I can to that sort of old, antique, pseudo religious sound.”

What other projects do you have coming up in the future?

MS: “I just finished another movie for MGM called ‘Disturbing Behaviour’, and it was directed by David Nutter who had directed some X-Files episodes in the past. And it’s a story of teenagers who are in highschool, and there’s a sinister plot that evolves while they’re there, and that’s all I’ll say at the moment (laughs). I’ll also be going back to the X-Files season number six and Millennium season number three, starting this September, and there’s talk of some other potential movie things. So right now I’ll be going on holiday to Bora Bora actually, getting a little close to you guys, and then I’ll be off for a while actually until September.”

“The X-Files Fight for the Future” soundtrack distributed by the Elektra Entertainment Group/Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. For more information visit WEA Records Online.

TV Guide Online: Online Chat with Mark Snow

Jun-16-1998
TV Guide Online
Online Chat with Mark Snow

TVGEN: Welcome to the TVGEN/Yahoo! Chat Auditorium. Our guest tonight is Mark Snow, composer of the X-Files and Millennium soundtracks. He also is the composer for the X-Files: Fight the Future soundtrack. Welcome Mark. We are very happy you could join us tonight.

Mark Snow: I’m very happy to be here and very excited about the upcoming release of the X-Files movie. And fire away!

Elderess27: Is the truth out there?

Snow: The truth is in the music and it IS out there!

Ctsufer31: Are you planning on releasing more music for the X-Files as well as music for Millennium?

Snow: It’s more likely that Millennium music will be out before new X-Files music.

Figr_Sk8r: I have been involved in orchestra music all my life. What kind of chance do I have in something like that?

Snow: Snow: It helps to be in Los Angeles and it helps to have some contacts in the business. If you don’t and still have strong feelings about it, you need a lot of guts and perseverance and you’ll find your way.

Jacie5andRock: How did you start composing for the X-Files? Were you asked?

Snow: I was one of 10 people up for this job. Chris Carter came to my studio, heard my music and left without giving me any indication what he thought. Then two weeks later I got a call saying I got the job. Which at the time was just another TV pilot. Little did we know it was going to be the smash cult hit that it is. It also helped that I was on the West side of L.A. because Chris didn’t want to travel across the Valley.

Summerof78: Hello Mark. I have the X-Files movie soundtrack and love it. What kind of differences will the movie soundtrack have and where do you get your ideas?

Snow: Assuming you’re talking about the TV show, the differences between the two are: The film score uses an 85-piece orchestra as well as electronic sounds, while the TV show is just the electronic stuff. That’s the big difference.

John_po: Have you been inspired by Brian Eno’s ambient work?

Snow: Yeah. The answer is yes. The minimal quality of that stuff has really inspired me, especially for season one and two for the X-Files.

Julie_silver: How hard is it to compose for La Femme Nikita?

Snow: I only wrote the theme and not the underscore, so it’s pretty easy.

Elderess27: Was it great working with an orchestra for the X-Files movie?

Snow: It was. I hadn’t done it in a long time, and in L.A. the musicians are so great that it was a thrill, and none of the X-Files producers or directors had ever seen me do that so it was an extra special kick for all of us.

Ctsufer31: Are you planning on doing the music for any other TV shows or movies?

Snow: Yes. Right now I’m doing the score for a movie called Disturbing Behavior from MGM which will be released around Aug. 7. It’s like a teenage movie with all unknowns but it’s very, very good.

Kristina_aus: What other TV shows have you composed music for?

Snow: As weird as this may seem, I did the music for Hart to Hart and bunch of TV movies and miniseries.

Agent_Y_98: Was “Blackwood” ever intended to be the real movie title?

Snow: No. That was a disguised name to keep the X-Files movie anonymous. When they sent tapes of the film to my house, it was always titled “Blackwood” in case some burglar stole them and told everyone what the movie was about. Blackwood was in the movie and if you pay attention, you’ll see Blackwood in the movie.

Adidaspigtails: Who is your favorite character on X-Files?

Snow: I really love Scully, because it’s been a thrill to see her grow and change from a little girl at the beginning of the first season to a very sophisticated, strong woman. And also Skinner, because he’s balder than me and all the women think he’s great.

Kristina_aus: How long does it take to complete the music to accompany an X-Files episode?

Snow: It takes anywhere from three to five days. Not a very fancy answer, but there it is.

Elderess27: I bet doing music for the X-Files, Millennium, and the X-Files movie really keeps you busy. How do you find time for it all?

Snow: In order for me to do all of that I have to be extremely disciplined and know that there is a certain amount of music I have to write to make these deadlines. If I get off schedule, it is real mayhem. I’ve been doing this for a long time and it helps having all this experience and working for all the same people, Chris Carter’s 10-13 Productions.

Ctsufer31: Why did you use Latin names for the music on the X-Files TV soundtrack?

Snow: The producer of that was my friend Jeff Charbonneau, who was also the music editor of the TV show. It was his idea to title the pieces in Latin just to be clever and more mysterious. I don’t know what any of these things mean, but as long as you like the music, that’s all that counts.

Adidaspigtails: What has been the favorite episode that you composed music for?

Snow: Well, seeing that there are over 120 episodes, it’s hard to pick out just one. But the show “Humbug”, as well as “Clyde Bruckman” and “Jose Chung”.

Elderess27: Are there certain restrictions made on your music by Chris Carter?

Snow: Not at all. If he has any comments at all it is usually “Let’s add some more music” or “Let’s add a ‘sting’ here.”

TVGEN: What is a “sting”?

Snow: It’s a musical accent when a startling thing happens. When something pops out of a closet or a frightening beat. Like the Psycho shower scene, the funny music is many stings.

Kristina_aus: Are you going to release another CD like The Truth and the Light?

Snow: There are no plans for any other X-Files music at the moment because the movie soundtrack is out, but maybe in a year or two or if this movie is a big hit, then the music for the sequel.

Kristina_aus: Chris Carter and Darin Morgan have guest starred in the X-Files. Will you also get a cameo appearance?

Snow: I hope so, now that the show has moved from Vancouver to L.A. I’d like to play a quiet psychopath.

Adidaspigtails: What do you consider to be the best piece you’ve written?

Snow: Well, the scene to the miniseries The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All, as well as the X-Files episodes “Conduit” and “Redux 2” of year five.

DarkeningSoul: The Millennium score is so alluring and very different from the X-Files. Where did you get your inspiration?

Snow: That’s a good question. Chris sent over a Celtic band, and there was a violin in there and it was sort of a sad, melancholy sound that I thought would be really cool for Millennium. I wanted there to be hope for the future and horror and the violin is hopefully more of a sound of hope.

Jacie5andRock: What do you mean exactly by the title of “Stung Kissing”?

Snow: You’ll have to see the movie. It’s very obvious if you see the movie. It’s probably the most exciting moment in the whole movie. I can’t give it away.

Elderess27: Do you have any composers that inspire you?

Snow: Yes. The film composers that inspire me are Jerry Goldsmith, Thomas Newman, Ennio Morricone and John Barry. And Bernard Herrmann.

SRT3: If you had a chance, would you like to spend a weekend in the future or the past?

Snow: In the past. In Vermont, skiing all by myself and it was one of those magic moments when the sun was going down and I thought I could stay there forever.

Jacie5andRock: Did you have fun conducting a very large orchestra?

Snow: Yes, it’s a thrill standing up in front of a large orchestra and hearing that great big sound. Because the TV show is done at my home studio and being let out of my room to conduct a big orchestra was a big thrill.

Gidget88: At the San Francisco Expo, you mentioned having an Internet poll to pick X-Files viewers’ favorite musical selections from the movie, then releasing it as a CD. Are you still thinking about that?

Snow: Actually, it was from the TV show. It would be great to get a response of people’s favorite pieces. Then I’d know I would be satisfying most of the fans. It would be real fun to know what everyone really loved.

Elderess27: Did you get to attend the X-Files movie premiere, and if so, what was your reaction to it?

Snow: I did attend and it was fantastic fun for me because I had never been to a big Hollywood premiere before. It was especially fun because I was interviewed in front of a lot of reporters and a whole bunch of fans saw me and screamed out my name and for about five seconds I felt like one of the actors. But I will take being a composer any day over being an actor.

TVGEN: Did you go to the premiere party following the screening?

Snow: Yes, I went and found my way over to the online chat area, which was unfortunately directly under the speakers of the DJ so we couldn’t hear ourselves think, it was so loud. But we managed to answer some questions despite the noise and it worked. If you like really loud dance music, that would have been the place for you. Actually, the Dust Brothers version of the theme was playing there, which is a remix dance version. That was cool.

Bonbonh: Are you any relation to the Grand Ole Opry star Hank Snow?

Snow: I’m not, but I’m not ashamed to think that I love the lyrics in most country songs.

Christo_43: Do you get angry when stock music libraries emulate your themes?

Snow: No, I think it’s kind of fun, actually. There have been many, many versions of the theme, from solo piano to hip hop and dance, and on and on. It’s always fun to see what people come up with.

CrayKlaw: What do you think of Angelo Badalamenti’s scoring for various David Lynch projects?

Snow: That’s a good question. I really loved his music. It’s very soulful and moody and simple. It really speaks to me and to a lot of people as well.

CekChik_pinky_: When cutting the soundtrack for the show, do you have the scenes to look at, and do you custom fit the music to the scene?

Snow: I get a videotape of the final cut picture and work very closely with that until I get my finished product.

TeChnOdANcEr25F: I watched the special on Fox last night, and was impressed by the artists performing on the album. How do you feel about being among the “best” of the best?

Snow: It’s very flattering and very much fun and right now I’m working with my personal trainer to look more and more like David Bowie every day. Once I have achieved that, I’m ready to go on tour. With the X-Files players.

PFrancoise: How old were you when you realized you had this talent and how did you recognize it?

Snow: I was 28. I looked in the mirror and said, “Damn, I got talent!” No, that’s a smart a$$ answer. I really loved music from an early age and my father was a musician, so it was in the genes. (My father was a drummer.)

Radiodazed: What was working with the Foo Fighters like?

Snow: I never really got to meet them, but I really loved their music so much and especially Monkey Wrench.

PFrancoise: Since music is your “work”, what do you do to relax?

Snow: I do a lot of bike riding and drinking a lot of great wine helps to relax me (as well as an occasional spanking… just kidding).

Guvie: Is your X-Files music published so we can buy the sheet music??

Snow: You can by the X-Files theme and Millennium theme sheet music from any record store.

Guinvere: Mark, do you have any hope of doing the music for the Psycho remake being done by Gus Van Sant?

Snow: That would be a thrill, but I have a feeling they have hired a composer already, although I’m not sure. It’s probably Danny Elfman.

CrayKlaw: When will the Millennium soundtrack be released? Any time soon?

Snow: Hopefully, after the first of 1999.

Adidaspigtails: What is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you?

Snow: When I was in Italy, in Capri, I bought a brand new pair of white linen Giorgio Armani pants, went to a gelato stand and dumped a whole scoop of black chocolate gelato all over myself and had to walk through the streets back to my hotel with people pointing and laughing. It was fun after a while. Then there was the time I set myself on fire and died. Then I recovered the next day.

Starlight1st: Do you consider yourself as famous??

Snow: Maybe in a very quiet way, which is I think the best type of fame, where you can go to the store and not be recognized. I love being anonymous.

TVGEN: Thanks for joining us tonight, Mark. We hope you can come back again soon.

Snow: Some last minute advice: Don’t be afraid of eating a lot of eggs, and flossing is very important!

Source: TV Guide Online, 16 June 1998

Soundtrack Magazine: Mark Snow: Scoring The X-Files Movie

Jun-??-1998
Soundtrack Magazine
Mark Snow: Scoring The X-Files Movie
Randall Larson

One of the biggest shows on TV continues to be Chris Carter’s THE X-FILES. With its ongoing conspiratorial mythology and speculative plotting, THE X-FILES is one part detective show, two parts science fiction, its eyes glancing furtively at the skies every Sunday night. Much of the show’s atmosphere is achieved through Mark Snow’s moody and inventive musical scoring. With the June release of the feature length X-FILES movie, Snow joins creator Chris Carter, director Rob Bowman and stars David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson in translating the small screen hit to the big screen.

Randall D. Larson: Last time we talked (Soundtrack!, June 1997), you were looking forward to the opportunity of expanding the scope of the TV music and orchestrate it a little broader for the feature. How has that worked out?
Mark Snow: It’s worked out great. I’d say 90% of the score is big orchestra combined with electronics. There are a few cues that are electronic, but they’re going to be very “big” sounding. It’s going to be sort of a traditional sound, to an extent, with the orchestra, but in a sharp contrast to the electronic stuff. It should be a really great mix. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the electronics, so I think it’s going to be a really great contrast.
In the TV show, from day one, everyone involved from Chris Carter down wanted a lot of music. At first he was talking about ambient, atmospheric, basically synth-pad kind of stuff. And that’s basically what I did at the beginning. It just got too boring and ordinary so I opened it up. Chris didn’t mind and after the first year he just let me go off on my own, and as the years went on it became more musical and less sound design. Every once in a while it would revert back to some sound design stuff, but now it’s a pretty good mix of ambient atmospheric music.

Randall D. Larson: Has the feature film enabled you to do any more thematic work than you were able to do on the show?
Mark Snow: I think the best thing, thematically, that’s come out of it is the X-FILES theme itself, which is being harmonized and orchestrated in different settings that never have appeared on the TV show. The TV version is sort of a one-note pad and a simple accompaniment. But now I’ve put different kinds of harmonization to it. It doesn’t happen every place, but it happens enough that anyone who knows the theme would recognize it.

Randall D. Larson: How about any new themes?
Mark Snow: There is a veiled theme for the Cigarette-Smoking Man. It’s not as much melodic as it is harmonic, it’s a bunch of minor chords going from one to another. It sounds a little bit like Bernard Herrmann / Jules Verne…

Randall D. Larson: It sounds perfectly appropriate for the character.
Mark Snow: Yes. There’s not a real melody, but a chordal structure. There’s a theme for the Elders, the Well Manicured Man and the older conspiracy figures. I haven’t done it yet, but the last episode of the TV season will have a lot of these themes in it, which will hopefully introduce some of the movie music.

Randall D. Larson: I understand the last few episodes this season will go right into the feature film. So you’re developing a musical segue as well?
Mark Snow: Yes. Actually, I just finished the second-to-Iast episode of the season, and that’s just a stand-alone. But the next one, which is the last episode of the season, is really tied into the movie.

Randall D. Larson: You started on the feature last January, so you’ve had plenty of time to develop material, concurrently with working on the series…
Yes. Unfortunately, the way things work at Ten-Thirteen Productions, which is the production company of X-FILES, there are a lot of last-minute changes. Someone gets up in the middle of the night and has an idea to change something, so just when you think we’re locked or it’s set, new changes come down, which I know is not unusual by any stretch of the imagination. So, although we had the time, I was always living under the anxiety of feeling that it was always going to change. That’s par for the course, though, and it always seems to work out.

Randall D. Larson: How much music, all told, have you composed for the film, and how many musicians have you used?
Mark Snow: I think it’ll be about 75 minutes, for 85 musicians. That’s a lot. Actually, I’m hoping to convince these people to take some of it out! I think the movie, to me, looks a little bit like the TV show at times, and I think in a feature you don’t need the constant reminder that something’s going on, with accents and music all over the place. For better or for worse, though, the legacy of the music of the X-Files has always been: play lots of music.

Randall D. Larson: How would you contrast working on the feature as opposed to the approach of doing the TV show? I know it’s more expansive and you’re doing more with themes as opposed to pure atmospheres, but how would you contrast the experiences, even though the film is so closely tied to the TV show?
Mark Snow: The biggest contrast, obviously, is the scope of the movie. There are things in the movie that the TV show can never do, and will never do. It’s just impossible.

Randall D. Larson: In terms of effects and locations?
Mark Snow: Yes. There is massive CGI, computer effects, and a scope that is quite appropriate for the big screen that they don’t have the time or money to do for the series. That’s the biggest contrast. It’s still a very dense story, quite complicated. I’m hoping that the non-fan will enjoy it as much as the fan.

x filesRandall D. Larson: Did you get the chance to use any melodies, or more of the lighter music than you were able to do on the TV show? Or has the tone been fairly dark throughout?
Mark Snow: It’s been pretty dark. The great thing about the TV series is, when we have these stand-alone, what I call boutique episodes, sometimes they verge on black comedy, with a lot of cute things I can do. The big shows, the mythical/conspiracy/cover-up shows are fairly drab and there’s not much room for anything but the real dark approach.

Randall D. Larson: Some of my favorite scores are for those one-shot episodes. I loved the ‘Elephant Mann’ episode with all the allusions to the John Morris music.
Mark Snow: You’re one of the few people who caught that! That’s exactly right. Those are the times when the palette is wide open and you really can stretch.

Randall D. Larson: What were some of the main challenges that THE X-FILES MOVIE posed for you?
Mark Snow: I wanted to continue the effect and the honesty of the music from the series and have it modulate to the big screen, to understand how to make that jump without it seeming like a score by Jerry Goldsmith or Homer or another big name movie composer.

Randall D. Larson: Was the feature film temp-tracked, and how did you deal with that?
Mark Snow: Yes, it was, and that was very helpful. My music editor, Jeff Charbonneau, temp tracked the movie with, say, 75% existing score, and 25% original stuff from me. He did a great job and it was very helpful in setting the tone and getting the producer and director to get a feel for what kind of music they thought would work. Then I was able to do it electronically and put it into a temp screening, and that was very successful. I basically did the temp track, and I’d say a good 95% of that is what the final score’s going to be, but with orchestra.

Randall D. Larson: How closely with you work with director Rob Bowman on the music?
Mark Snow: Rob is an incredibly literate director. But we all basically work for Chris Carter. So, although Chris didn’t direct the movie, he’s very hands-on. Chris is very loyal, and he likes to work with the people he knows. It never would have worked if he got some big shot egomaniac director! Rob is incredibly talented, and he also knows what Chris likes. But, between me and Rob alone, we have this running joke where he’ll hear a CD and he’ll call up and he’ll just name a CD and the cut, and then hang up on me. “FORREST GUMP, cut 10!” and he hangs up! “TERMINATOR 2, cut 11!” or whatever.
Then we’d discuss it. And he hates violins, on top of it all. So he’s going to see 30 of them on Monday, so good luck!

Randall D. Larson: What kind of orchestration are you using in the orchestral part of the score?
Mark Snow: It’s a fairly standard orchestra. Big string section, lots of basses and five percussionists. The percussionists are going to be all over the place – glass and marimbas and all kinds of crazy instruments. So the combination of the electronic ambient stuff and the orchestra should be really spectacular.

Randall D. Larson: Sounds like a score and a film to look forward to!
Mark Snow: Well, I hope so! The organization for this thing has been incredible! Pre-record all the electronic tracks, and then strip them off to tapes, individually, and then all that has to be transferred to a digital 48-track machine. Then the orchestra’s recorded, then the whole thing goes to another studio to mix it all together, and if our calculations are right, it should be an awesome sound.

Randall D. Larson: Now having done the feature, how do you think it will be like going back to the series, having had that experience?
Mark Snow: Well, I’m hoping the movie score experience is going to be really great. But the thing is that the TV show is also great, and it is like doing a mini feature all the time. If it was really terrible, boring drudge work it would be a problem. But it’s not.

Randall D. Larson: What do you have forthcoming?
Mark Snow: I’m doing a movie for MGM right after THE X-FILES called DISTURBING BEHAVIOR, which is being directed by David Netter, who’s an alumni of THE X FILES!

Randall D. Larson: What kind of film is that going to be?
Mark Snow: It’s an all-unknown teenage cast, and on the surface it might seem like SCREAM or a movie like that, but it’s really a lot deeper and it’s really brilliant, with some fabulous actors, and the direction, the location photography are just great. A real deep, dark mystery.

Randall D. Larson: When do you start on that and when’s it coming out?
Mark Snow: It’s supposed to come out August 21st but I heard they moved it up to the beginning of August. I should be scoring around the end of June.

Randall D. Larson: Have you done any writing on that yet?
Mark Snow: Actually, I did. I’ve written a main title theme for that, which they all loved, so I’m off to a good start on that.

Soundtrack.Net: Interview with Mark Snow

May-27-1998
Soundtrack.Net
Interview with Mark Snow
Dan Goldwasser

[Original article]

I recently had the opportunity to talk with Mark Snow regarding his work on the X Files television show, and the upcoming feature film. Mr. Snow will be signing copies of his score album to the film on June 6th at 1pm at Creature Features in Burbank, CA. The album arrives in stores on Tuesday, June 2, and the movie opens nationwide on June 19th.

Flashing back five years. How did you get involved in The X-Files? Did Chris Carter approach you?

It was a friend of mine, who was the Executive Producer of X-Files in Canada, R.W. Goodwin. He was a producer of TV stuff for quite a while and when it came time to choose a composer, Chris Carter didn’t have any relative or friend or anyone he knew -It was basically his first show – so Bob Goodwin recommended me. About 10-15 other guys were recommended all over the place. One of the reasons it worked out was that I was on the way from his house in Pacific Palisades to Fox Studios, on Pico. I was working on a low budget movie and he heard what I was doing and really liked it, but gave me no indication that he was going to hire me. He said, “Thanks for your time”. Came back a second time again, and I had no indication whether he liked it or not. Two weeks later I got a call from the agent saying “You have this pilot,” and I thought, “Okay, so what, big deal?” No one knew that this would be what it is now. I mean the pilot is good, but I don’t think anyone who saw it thought that this would be one of the great TV shows of all time, or the most popular. And I remember, at times, saying to my agent “I don’t know about this, these people are really weird – maybe I shouldn’t do it.” And he said, “You know, you just tell us and we’ll get you out of it”. Oh my God! Luckily it all worked out.

You came out with a CD two years back (“The Truth and The Light”). Why do you suppose dialogue was placed over your music?

Someone, I forget exactly who, had the idea that it might make it into a cool radio-play or something where the fans could recall the episodes more clearly if they had the dialogue marked with the music and I don’t think that proved to be too smart. I would have liked to have just pure music, and a lot of the fans commented on that. But with the X-Files movie score, it’s going to be all music.

How has the success of Materia Primoris (The X-Files Theme) worldwide affected your professional standing in the television music industry?

It’s certainly positive – it’s certainly good. But it’s not as if just doing that made me the guy that everyone wants to work with on every project. Luckily I’ve worked with a lot of people in my career, and if this X-Files thing never happened, I’d still be working. Not on this level of success or exposed, but I’d still be making a living. But the theme is real icing on the cake, and it’s really fantastic. I remember writing it was really effortless – no drudgery or anything. It came out so simply.

I did write four themes before that one. Chris Carter sent over some music and told me to make it “like this” or “like that”, and I kept doing itand he was nice about it, but after the fourth one, I said “let me try one – a completely different approach – and let’s see what happens”.

Have those unused themes appeared anywhere in the show?

Never. Some of them are distinct themes, but nothing like the present theme. But looking back on them, they are darker, heavier, louder. The coolest part was when I went on vacation in France, and the X-Files theme was the number one record in France and England at the time – that was pretty cool.

Is The X-Files movie your first mainstream theatrical feature?

Yes. I was a little nervous before I got hired to do it.

So there was a possibility you wouldn’t be working on the movie?

Not that I know of, but I’ve learned working in this business for a long time now that you don’t take anything for granted. I could see that hiring Jerry Goldsmith or James Horner wouldn’t be too out of whack.

If I’m not mistaken, in the television shows you have used primarily synthesizers to perform your music. How was it using a full orchestra for The X-Files movie? Which “sound” do you prefer?

It’s impossible to do the orchestra stuff with a weekly show – there’s no time. Just flat out no time.

How much time did you have on the movie?

I had a couple of months, but what made that difficult was that it would constantly change – re-cut and re-cut and re-cut.

And you were doing the TV show at the same time.

Right, so that was – I just got out of a two month big-time stressful deal.

Do you achieve the same textures with an orchestra?

When the show started five years ago, they wanted synthesizer sustained type atmosphere ambient sound design type stuff, to weave in and out. Over the years that became very tiresome and I began doing more musical things: more melodies, more musical. And so it has evolved to a more musical show, and the score of the movie reflects that. You know, themes, and musical themes, and sound effects as well. I’m happy to say that the orchestra music has almost a traditional quality at times. It will be much bigger.

What can you tell me about your involvement with David Nutter in Disturbing Behavior.

He was the director of a lot of the X-Files episodes – a very talented guy. He went off and did Disturbing Behavior, which I’m actually going to see tonight at a test screening. I haven’t done anything yet – it’s a temp version of it. He was loyal to me, and liked what I did and, lives in the neighborhood. He’s very talented and I’m glad that I’m free to do it.

Having worked with Nutter on the X-Files, would you like to see your professional relationship with him grow to a point similar to that of Herrmann and Hitchcock or Williams and Spielberg?

Hopefully the loyalty factor will be there. But day to day, you hope and pray everything works out. There’s a director named John Gray whose done a few TV movies and I’ve done his stuff – he’s an old friend – and hopefully will do everything he does. And David Nutter, Chris Carter hopefully we’ll continue to work together too on different projects.

How was it working LA when the production was in Vancouver? Will the move to LA change anything for you?

Absolutely nothing. The show is dubbed here, so there is going to be absolutely no difference for me.

Will we ever see a release of a score-CD (with or without dialogue) from Millennium? And Nowhere Man?

Oh. Well, I don’t know how long that show is going to be around. But Fox talked about doing a music album of it, and if there’s an underscore part of it, those cues wouldn’t have dialogue. But I’m not sure anything is going to come out on that show.

Nowhere Man there’s been some interest from record companies to release the music, but it was a union thing with Disney, and Disney hasn’t been all that forthcoming in letting go of it.

Do you think that there is almost a guaranteed success for the X-Files movie?

It’s going to be absolutely fascinating to see how it goes. Nothing in this business surprises me anymore, and it could have some monster opening weekend and then sputter out, or have a mediocre opening and then just have legs like crazy and go go go. People will watch that instead of the reruns. For it to truly be a big smash, the non fans have to have an interest in it too. There’s a lot of huge action – I mean gigantic things. With the advent of computer graphics, the fans will have fun seeing things that we could never do in a million years on TV.

This past season we’ve seen a new direction for the music in The X-Files. One episode that comes to mind was the “Post-Modern Prometheus” episode. How did you approach that episode differently than the other episodes?

Well, in that show in particular, Chris Carter directed it, and he wrote it, and he temp tracked it with music from Elephant Man, and said that this was the direction he would like. It’s kind of a “boutique” show – it’s a stand-alone show that’s not connected with the big global conspiracy business. Those are the two classifications of shows – the stand-alone shows, or the big Cigarette Smoking Man conspiracy shows.

What about the Halloween episode for Millennium?

That was great – total fun.

Was there any particular episode of The X-Files that you enjoyed scoring the most?

Well, I don’t know about the most, but the ones that come to mind are the “Jose Chung’s ‘From Outer Space'”, “Clyde Bruckman’s Final Repose”, “Humbug” – it’s funny because I think that all of those are Darin Morgan shows. Another one from this past season – “Redux”.

Do you think there will be enough material for another CD?

Everyone really commented on that, and really loved it. I’m hoping that’s what they’ll do.

You have a CD signing next Saturday at Creature Features in Burbank, and you did one a few years back when the other CD came out. How does it feel to meet your “fan base”?

Well, it’s always gratifying when people like what you do, and the people seem intelligent – not like people showing up in Fox Mulder trench-coats or something – and asking intelligent questions about pieces of music they thought was good. It’s really gratifying.

What have been your influences?

I don’t think I had time in the past five years to have influences, but I would have to say the standard 20th Century sort of classical guys. Stravinsky, Bartok, Ravel, Prokofiev, just to name a few, and then more esoteric guys. I remember Jerry Goldsmith’s score to Planet of the Apes was one of my earlier influences – I was like “Wow – I’d like to do this stuff.”

Congratulations on your continued success with The X-Files – I look forward to seeing the movie and hearing your work!

Source: Dan Goldwasser; Soundtrack.Net [www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=19] May 27, 1998.