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Interview: Frank Spotnitz on “Detour”

Happy new year! Perhaps the last year without an X-Files reboot? We continue our catch-up of 30th anniversary interviews with an audio commentary of “5X04: Detour” with writer Frank Spotnitz thanks to The X-Cast: An X-Files Podcast! Summary below:

  • With TXF, the writers-producers explicitly tried to make something that would last the pass of time [30 years later, congratulations!]; they had in mind Jaws (leave it to the imagination to fill the blanks); they were conscious to write strong women characters (like when Scully had to protect an impaired Mulder); the smart MSR was at the heart of the show
  • Shooting in the woods was a cost-saving measure, but weather made it costly (because of the rain, they had to build the camp fire scene in a set); How The Ghosts Stole Christmas was also a cost-saving ep but set building made it very expensive; Dod Kalm was successful in saving money
  • Behind the names: Marty and Michael were FS’s business partners; Louis was a cousin of FS; Michelle Fazekas was a 1013 assistant; West Virginia setting is where FS’s mother is from; Jeff Glaser was a Fox executive that gave them notes (“it’s only scary as it is believable”)
  • Leon County: a clue to Ponce de Leon
  • FS had done a lot of mytharc at that point, he wanted to do a stand-alone
  • Inspiration: things that scared FS when he was a kid, like a dog barking at something unknown at night; was fascinated with tree rings
  • Introductiory scenes: invest the viewer in secondary characters before something bad happens; also, FS had just become a parent a few years before
  • FBI team-building comedy scene was Carter’s idea
  • Brett Dowler had done a lot of 2nd unit directing, this was his first ep as director
  • Leonard Betts: Spotnitz-Gilligan-Shiban were in competitiong with Morgan-Wong on which ep would make it to Superbowl
  • FS was present in Vancouver for prepping and just the first day of shooting, then back to LA for scripts and post for other eps
  • 1930s The Invisible Man on the TV: it was all about whether they could afford licensing costs
  • Ground the episodes in reality: Scully is like the smartest member of the audience, if you can erode her skepticism then the script works
  • During s2 they had to go to the library for research, by s5 they had internet
  • Civilization is encroahing on nature, that’s why creatures react
  • Mark Snow wrote so much music, more than the average TV show; editing was done without music, then they’d go to Mark’s home in Santa Monica to hear it with music
  • Beyond s6 they were wondering what can they say that is new? s8-9 had a different storytelling format, leaning more into The Twilight Zone influences
  • Director of photography Joel Ransom used a lot of steadicam; even in interiors scenes the light is not flat, half their faces are in shadow
  • FS developed a show with Adam Rapp (brother of actor Anthony Rapp) but that didn’t get made
  • Creature stealing stones: inspired by Planet of the Apes (humans steal clothes), one of FS’s favourites
  • They typically had 8 days main unit, at least 2 days 2nd unit (which here did things like POV shots of the forest); the record was Jose Chung’s, 20 days (!)
  • Every 12 pages of script there had to be a cliffhanger for the act break, that forced good discipline for script writing; FS still does it even if there’s no need for commercials breaks
  • Mulder’s line “I don’t wanna restle” was improvised; there was very little ad-libbing, actors were used to follow the script closely, a lot of pressure to make the air date; today, there are daily phone calls, actors feel more empowered and change lines, the culture of movie-making has moved to TV, sometimes it is for the better
  • Running out of bullets: FS compares it to Hitchcock’s “Notorious”, where Cary Grant and Claude Rains run out of champagne
  • Mulder’s disappearance: they trimmed individual frames to make it seem sudden
  • The monster was a mix of practical and early CG effects
  • FS wanted M&S alone scene like in Quagmire; they rarely did character continuity, like Scully reflecting on her cancer
  • Originally Scully was to sing Hank Williams’ “I’m so lonesome I could cry” but GA said she can’t sing, the only thing she can sing was “Jeremiah…”
  • They were stuck during script writing on how to get them out of that hole; the solution was team building
  • The timing was down to the second for the ad breaks, they were shaving frames off shots (!); editing was done in a trailer at the end of the Fox lot
  • FS thought DD mispronounced “conquistadors” but he was right
  • They were careful with whose POV they were showing, that final shot with the monster was not Scully’s
  • Ending: there’s still something left, in typical TXF fashion

http://www.wemadethispodcasts.com/podcast/the-x-cast-an-x-files-podcast/episode/the-x-files-30-commentary-track-detour-ft-frank-spotnitz

Interview: Chris Carter on “The Erlenmeyer Flask”

An audio commentary of “1X23: The Erlenmeyer Flask” with Chris Carter, coming from The X-Cast: An X-Files Podcast recorded for the 30th anniversary of The X-Files! In a rare treat, The Creator talks about one of the most important episodes of the series and is, well, depending on what you compare it to, tight-lipped or talkative! Highlights below!

  • opening sequence: shot in North Vancouver docks, used several times, have now been torn down [as I can sadly confirm]
  • last episode of the season and he was really tired, wrote this in his room at the Sutton Place Hotel in Vancouver [still exists!], put Stone’s “JFK” on and became the background while writing (could have influenced the idea to kill Deep Throat, “sometimes you have to kill your darlings”)
  • he sat a long while with the people that did the opening credits to fine-tune them
  • many name references: Roy Lacerio: CC played softball with; Danny Valladeo: was pitcher in CC’s high school baseball team [ha! so it’s confirmed he’s supposed to be named Valladeo!]; Berube: named after a fan who wrote a letter to CC about what she liked and didn’t like about the show; Ardis: name of street in Bellflower where his oldest friend grew up in; William Secare, Fort Marlene: surely there’s a story there but he doesn’t remember
  • they might have known that there was going to be s2 by this point, they were told they would have a short vacation
  • episode inspired by conversations with virologist Anne Simon about DNA and nucleotides, became science advisor to the show [see analysis of her book on the science of TXF], Carpenter was her married name; and with Bob Hardy (?), South California doctor who was working on the Human Genome Project
  • many takes to have monkey try to bite Scully
  • all scripted, no ad libs, fast production, no room to improvise
  • if you want to give someone a “tutorial” on what the mythology is about, you show them Pilot, Deep Throat, The Erlenmeyer Flask
  • he can remember the name of the actor of Crew Cut Man, Lindsey Ginter!
  • they managed to put so much in a single episode because they plotted out so intricately and elaborately
  • originally 7 days of shooting, then 8, then additionally 5-8 days of 2nd unit working concurrently, sometimes 3rd unit
  • detective scenes come from his love of “Sherlock Holmes”
  • excellent directing from RW Goodwin, director of photography John Bartley set the dark visual tone of the show
  • can remember every frame of “All The President’s Men” [I can believe that!]
  • actually shot at a real Pandora Street in Vancouver
  • he has Zeus Storage sign and alien fetus in his office
  • Spielberg had called “Close Encounters” speculative fiction; CC gave in to the characterization “science fiction” eventually [I guess CC’s strong dislike of the term science fiction came from its pulpy connotation while he was growing up in the 60s-70s?]
  • CC had in mind a high-tech facility, Alex Gansa suggested the look of a dark musty rusty warehouse
  • from the get go TXF was not just going to be an alien show, although the mythology was going to be about that
  • importance of science, developed a network of people they could call to get things right
  • was the last episode of the season so he got to be on set for the whole shooting
  • he wanted to direct an episode as soon as possible, but producing was very time consuming, so it ended up happening in s2
  • Deep Throat, Syndicate and everything else derived from the idea of the character of CSM
  • after shooting this, GA went on vacation and got married
  • GA was not an experienced driver, had difficulty with shooting
  • alien fetus design: props and art department took an idea and always made it better
  • he didn’t have Red Museum episode in mind yet, but it was derived from Deep Throat’s line
  • Deep Throat shooting scene: it was nearing dawn, cameras set up so that it would look night
  • removing Scully’s boyfriend [Ethan] made Scully’s relationship with Mulder so much more tense

https://wemadethispodcasts.com/podcast/the-x-cast-an-x-files-podcast/episode/the-x-files-30-commentary-track-the-erlenmeyer-flask-ft-chris-carter

TXF Virtual Season 12

On the holidays treat yourself with The X-Files Virtual Season 12. It’s fanfic that tries to capture the overall style of the show semi-professionally, a group of writers that produced stories in the format of scripts (like Millennium VS4 before it). There’s a mix of mythology, stand-alones, comedy, experimental, and stories grabbed from present-day conspiracy circles or urban legends. Plus, it continues on from the Struggles and was written as a final-final season, it wraps everything up at the end in a quite satisfactory way. Written in 2018 but I only read it this year. Happy holidays!

https://virtualseasons.x-sites.org

French podcast: Season 7 (2)

[FRENCH] Décidément, il y a plein de choses avec lesquelles je suis en désaccord sur ces commentaires sur la s7, mais c’est indéniable que c’est la plus faible saison des 7 premières. Dommage qu’il y a eu autant de choses qui sont venues après, parce que je suis de ceux qui pensent que Requiem aurait bien marché comme un series finale.

https://www.facebook.com/LeCoinPopPodcast/videos/1770308130065243/

TXF Official Archives Vol 2 coming

Happy Ten Thirteen, happy birthday Mulder, happy birthday Chris Carter! 67 years old, already — retirement age, one could say — but that didn’t stop Marty, Francis, Sir Ridley…

And what’s this? A book announcement for something that comes out 22 October 2024, one year from now? Paul Terry’s “The X-Files: The Official Archives: Volume II: Extraterrestrial Activity and the Syndicate“! YES! We had found listings for this back in May that it would come out in December this year — so whatever the reason for the delay is, the making of this must be already well advanced if not completely finished. Says Terry:

“volume two covers the entire mythology—from seasons one all the way through to season 11, including Fight the Future, with some surprises—reading through it, and studying it, will feel a little different. Because I wanted volume two to be an even more immersive experience. So, while Agent Leyla Harrison is collating and preserving the reports and evidence, let’s just say that some strange things happen… things that, in spirit, will be familiar to X-Files fans.”

Can’t wait to see if Dr They rewrites Leyla Harrison’s memory to make sense of the revival mythology in a coherent way with the earlier years. Regardless of that, vol. 1 was such a beautifully done object that this can only be excellent!

Some things I noticed from the cover page: unlike vol. 1, this volume covers the years 1989, 1990 and 1992 as well (the years Mulder was alone in the XF division, or with Fowley) and the year 2017 (the missing year between s10 and s11). Terry’s signature reads 7/2/23, further proof that this was delayed sinificantly.

Edit: as per the author in the ETC Facebook comments (!), the date is not in any ay related to any delay, it’s an Easter egg. The hunt is on, what does it mean? “FBW”?

Interview with Paul Terry at Gizmodo

“Dreamland II” song revealed

“A love song from an alien abductee to the alien who disappeared”: here it is, the song heard that was written in haste in a matter of hours for the needs of production of “Dreamland II” finds success 25 years later!… (as reported earlier)

This was not Mark Snow as this was not much in his style, so Dan Marfisi and Glenn Jordan came to the rescue. I’m no fan of country music, but this story is wild!

+ interviews with the song’s writers and with Chris Carter at Rolling Stone.