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Carter on 10 years of the revival, season 12, third movie possibilities

The X-Files revival is already a decade old! As incredible as that sounds. “My Struggle I” premiered on January 24, 2016; followed by “Founder’s Mutation” just a day later. A decade later, Chris Carter is still preparing new things for the world of The X-Files. Here we break down his latest interview, the last interview of The X-Cast podcast, recorded on November 23, 2025. After hosting academic-level analysis of TXF and bringing us dozens of interviews with cast and crew, the X-Cast ran its course and finished its notable run (I even sent them an audio message for their last episode!). But Carter is not done with the show, and he even looks forward to more interview with them despite the fact he was told that this was for the X-Cast’s closing salvo. It feels very weird listening to this interview: on the one hand it feels like the ending of an era, with the revival being as old as it is now, and with these dedicated fans calling it a day; and on the other hand Carter opens up so many fronts that it’s impossible even for the most jaded fan not to be excited for the future.

“I Want To Believe” Director’s Cut

  • As first announced on David Duchovny’s podcast, an all-new cut of the second movie is in preparation.
  • Carter is exchanging notes with Garfield Whitman; he was post-production supervisor in Carter’s “The After” and an associate producer / co-producer for both TXF revival seasons. They have a finalized cut and sending it to studio imminently.
  • Carter and Spotnitz loved their script. The studio asked them to make a change; to get the PG-13 rating they had to take out several scary things and part of the story. Then the Motion Picture Association asked for more cuts. Carter found out that the PG-13 rating on theatrical movies is less permissive than network TV.
  • The story is an “homage to Frankenstein”. He had heard that a doctor in Cleveland had done a transplant of a monkey’s head. He visited him for research. The equipment in the lab in the movie would have been what would really have been used from that operation.
  • The Mulder-Scully relationship went through an “interesting wrinkle” in IWTB. Mulder and Scully never got married. [A thousand fanfic writers cry in agony!]
  • He remembers lots of shooting in the snow. With the director of photography, the did tests using digital cameras, but the snow was blurred out, so they decided to shoot on film.
  • The distance from it since 2008 makes him look at it with fresh eyes. He lifted some things, rearranged a couple of things.
  • He is working with the “best editor I’ve ever known”, Eleanor Infante, it’s “her version of the movie”; she worked on season 11, and with Carter on My Struggle IV (here’s a recent interview with her). They have added effects and music. Changes are sprinkled throughout. The new cut has “made it lean on the story rather than completely on the relationship.”
  • “It was not the movie we set out to make”, “it was always a disappointment”. [!]
  • His wife has seen the new cut, she is his toughest critic.
  • There is not more Skinner in it.
  • They have access to Mark Snow’s music library from the show, they are drawing from it for the new edit. “Mark Snow MS is TXF”. Carter talked with him shortly before he died, his diagnosis was terminal. [Nice to hear him talk about Snow, finally.]
  • They are on a tight budget. He wants to add two contemporary songs in the edit, and they are expensive.
  • It’s impossible to say when it will be released. [Or how? Could Disney/Fox be planning this as a tease before the premiere of Coogler’s TXF series?]

[This cut is more than the already-existing IWTB extended cut (in the DVD/BluRay), it is much more than either reverting to an earlier cut before the changes demanded by the studio (see “Blade Runner” Final Cut, more or less), or taking extra scenes that were shot and adding them in (see “The Lord of the Rings” Extended Editions): it is an all-new edit with new sound mix based on the same raw material, with a different editor and a director who is 17 years wiser. This is closer to “Caligula” Ultimate Cut, you could say, and rather quite unique in movie history. Now, I don’t know to what extent the additions will make me have a complete change of opinion on the entire movie. But we are not talking about just adding in more violence, and indeed some additional story is very much welcome. Surely it bodes well for making the movie at least marginally better! I will look forward to this. What is most surprising out of all this is Carter’s admission that the 2008 movie was a “disappointment”: a very rare admission and an example of self-criticism that is not Carter’s forte, as we will see in what follows.]

The 2016-2018 reboot

  • The reboot came about not with Carter going to the studio, but with the studio approaching him and the actors first.
  • “Darin’s episodes were fantastic” (if they could have done more, “my answer is always more Darin Morgan”!), “Glen [Morgan] and Jim [Wong] were great to have”. Frank Spotnitz was busy in Europe. Great to have newcomers like Ben van Allen, who did a horror movie type episode [Familiar].
  • Series today have the luxury of having all scripts ready before shooting, they didn’t. [S10-11 were produced in the ‘old style’ of network TV, like the original series in the 90s.]
  • A writer wrote an episode but it wasn’t TXF, Glen jumped in and wrote a fantastic ep. [He won’t say which writer it was and which episode Glen replaced. “Rm9”?]
  • The studio thought of reordering the s10 episodes. He didn’t disagree, but it was not a popular decision.
  • About “Babylon”: “Miller” is Mulder in Dutch, and David’s son is called Miller; “Einstein” fits with Scully’s science background. He anticipated the question on whether this was a backdoor pilot; but there was no time nor the opportunity to discuss anything more than what they did. He has friends who have done MDMA or ayahuasca, they have come back changed; it was fun to see Mulder do something like that with his mushroom trip. He is a fan of Fatboy Slim’s video clip with Christopher Walken [Weapon Of Choice], wanted to see something similar.
  • “My Struggle I” was written 2015 before Trump and it “predicts the conspiracy-laden crazed world world as we live in today”. He had been going to conspiracy theory conventions, he saw what was coming. “My Struggle II” predicted the pandemic.
  • The revival is “good”, “the work is great”.

[While there are certainly good things to say about the revival, and 10 years passing has already started doing its work in terms of re-evaluation, I still wouldn’t call it “great”, especially where the mythology is concerned, which is entirely Carter’s doing. MS1 might have thrown the viewer into a whole new world of crazy conspiracies, especially with that scene where Mulder and O’Malley are trying to one-up each other at the most out-there conspiracy theory, but the show didn’t do anything that was narratively interesting out of this mess. At the time in my review, I expected the confusion in MS1 to correspond to Mulder’s state of mind, hoping that subsequent episodes would develop this, clarifying the lies from the truth, becoming specific rather than vague, producing a plot that says something and brings change into the characters; what we got instead was a mere statement, a mood, and stopping there, on to different things in every single Struggle. Clearly, Carter is not one that relishes the current state of things under Trump, the MS1 conspiracy overload was a warning that paranoia would be our undoing, not that all conspiracies were premonitions. As a result, bona fide right-wing conspiracy theorists took MS1 at face value and felt vindicated that their world view was becoming mainstream; MS2 did little to correct that.]

[Of course an author doesn’t have to share his characters’ opinions, as in any work of fiction. There is this whole reading of the Struggle episodes about subjectivity: paranoia in My Struggle I (Mulder), lots of science in 2 (Scully), lies / cover-ups / self-aggrandizement in 3 (CSM), and whatever 4 was (William). And indeed these episodes become more interesting once you perceive that, they are complex episodes. However, at some point you have to tell a story, some story: you can’t have absolutely nothing happening in an objective shared reality and impacting character motivations, decisions, actions following one another, plot. So the Struggles-as-subjectivity was a nice experiment, but that reading can only hold to a certain point.]

The “My Struggle IV” clue and season 12?

  • About the 4 “My Struggles”: “they were all aiming at season 12. Whether that happens or not I can’t predict. I can’t think of any bigger things that I’ve set up through the course of those 4 episodes than I’ve done in the show previously. I’ve got big ideas. I certainly would love to see those come together as a series or as another movie. We’ll see.”
  • Theories about what the clue about the continuation could be (the host Kurt throws several theories at him: that there is no real savior, everyone is their own savior; that Scully’s pregnancy was the first stable inherited hybrid; and Eat The Corn’s own elaborated theory was quoted to Carter, that William can perceive the “music of the spheres” and have access to timelines and can change the future): “all of that plays into the culmination, I put a big clue in there and no one has really — not even responded to the clue, haven’t seen the clue. That clue is staring you in the face, it plays into what TXF will or will not become in the future.”
  • There was a “not pleasant exchange” with Gillian, she felt Scully didn’t have agency. “The pregnancy came out of the blue for her, which it did, because it came out of the blue for me too.”
  • There were some angry fan reactions after the finale: “It showed me I hadn’t done enough to convince people what I’m doing. I’m doing this organically, its not like I — all has to do with the show and what came before it, but I’ve got a big idea, a lot of people didn’t see it that way.”

[I was excited at building up that theory collecting quotes from various of his theories, and I must say I was disappointed not at the fact that it’s wrong, that’s fine, but more at his whole attitude. It’s amazing to me how he persistently teases us with this big clue for well over a year now. Despite being directly presented with the most meticulous fan-made theories, his reaction is just the spiel as if he hadn’t heard anything, that there’s a clue that somehow absolutely nobody has thought about or even come close to. Is he taking us all for a ride just to stir interest in making more episodes? It just never ends and there is no catharsis, if season 12 is made there will always be season 13 to tease afterwards. And when the journey is so frustrating I’m not sure I’m interested in the destination.]

A third movie?

  • Carter was discussing with 20th Century Studios President Steve Asbell about a possible third TXF movie. That’s when the idea to do a director’s cut of IWTB first came about, it came out of the blue.
  • David Duchovny and Carter have been “talking about something new for quite a while”, something involving both Duchovny and Anderson. All three were going to have lunch together on December 1 to discuss this project.
  • All this is separate from Coogler’s project. Carter gave his blessing to Coogler, it will be his own thing. “I’m curious what he’s going to do.”
  • There’s a lot of new science he wants to write about in new episodes.
  • About continuing the story in other media: Others come to him with project and ask him if he wants to collaborate. “Perihelion” book: “I think she did a terrific job.” The cancelled TXF animated series “didn’t happen, I think I made the right choice” [to cancel it]. “I don’t think we’ve seen the end of these characters in the medium we’ve come to know them.” [i.e. live-action] “These characters and the show are so personal to me, I want to protect them every way and every time I can. I don’t want to have them become irrelevant because there’s so much of them, so I’m reluctant to — although there are opportunities like the Coogler series.”
  • In IWTB there are “all those little things I laid in there, on the wall, the back of Mulder’s door at home, little things that meant something to me, now I have the chance to — there’s more to see.” [Is this about the elements in the new cut, or that IWTB includes hints about what comes next that will become clear later?]

[So not only the story of TXF is not over, he actively has plans for a season 12 and a story idea for a third film, all in parallel to Ryan Coogler’s potential series. This is huge! Is it 2008 all over again? Time to resurrect the tag. Mulder and Scully are off-limits to Coogler, at most there could be a cameo for them, and we can call this project a “spin-off” of the main series. Mulder and Scully are ‘reserved’ for whatever Carter (and Duchovny) have in mind. I understand that will to “protect” the characters: Carter has poured so much of himself in this world, his worldview so unique and so closely associated to the TXF identity, that it’s difficult to imagine TXF without him. Despite everything I’ve just said about his revival episodes (and my head-canon still stops after season 7), I will always be interested in what he does. I genuinely hope he proves my negativity wrong!]

[But is he reading the room well? How likely is any of this to bear fruit? Is one re-edited movie that carries a lot of lukewarm baggage enough to trigger financing for a new revival? Coogler’s project has an uphill battle to convince a new audience that it will have an identity of its own and that it can stand on its feet, and the studio and Disney will focus their marketing on that new thing instead of a return to the old. So will we ever know what Carter intends? His approach to hold everything hidden is very different to, say, Daniel Knauf revealing planned plot points for “Carnivàle” or James Cameron saying he would be ready to publish everything in a press conference or in a book if no more of his “Avatar” films are made!]

Misc and non-TXF projects

  • He is about to embark on a new directing project. His wife wrote something about 35 years ago, it was optioned but never made. He found the script in their closet. She has updated it. They have found the perfect actress for it, it will excite TXF fans. They are now searching for investors for it. [I hope he manages to do it, just so that we can see more of his work being made and break his ‘single-success man’ image.]
  • “I have an idea right now that is kind of my answer to the criticism of ‘The After’, it may see the light of day someday.” [Another story idea, another thing I want to learn more about!]
  • The logo: the “typewriter X” was created by himself. The “X” used in “Fight the Future” was made by others; but he “has ideas about” that logo for the future.
  • His advice to young Carter writing the TXF pilot in 1992: “You’re lucky you didn’t listen to your mother, who said you don’t know what a hard days work is!” They worked a lot for the series! “My forebears were dairy farmers who got up at the crack of dawn to milk the cows. I was the same person, working on a science fiction TV show.”

Interview: pilot director Robert Mandel

Happy solstice! Here is something out of the ordinary: an interview with Robert Mandel, the director of The X-Files pilot episode in 1993, by the people at the “Hey, That’s Me!” podcast. This is I think the only interview he has ever given on TXF, he is somebody who goes from project to project and doesn’t look back. The pilot is of course full of iconic moments and it is still very well-remembered. He only did the pilot but he sounds like somebody who could have been a good fit for the show long-term.

The episode runs like a live commentary on the episode itself. Some highlights:

  • Before, he did a lot of theatre, then AFI, short films, then features. This was his first TV experience, he wanted to do more movies.
  • A great experience overall. He and Carter were in complete agreement.
  • He had seen “Prime Suspect” [1991 TV movie with Helen Mirren, police investigation on serial killer with the lead dealing with workplace sexism], he discussed it with Carter and they wanted the same approach for TXF, low-key mystery, play it straight.
  • He came in when Mulder had been cast, they were still looking for a Scully.
  • Carter was more familiar with TV production than him. As writer and producer, Carter was on set every day, but the cooperation with Mandel went fine, there was trust.
  • He specifically remembers shooting a lot of dialogue under the cold and the rain, and Mulder talking about his sister, working with director of photography Tom Del Ruth [also only worked on the pilot].
  • Tight shooting schedule, hardly any time for rehearsals. Now pilots get more time.
  • They did 5-7 takes, tops; anything more than 3 takes was a lot already.
  • Carter liked people sticking to the script.
  • Carter found a lot of the set dressing himself, like Mulder’s wall. He worked a lot on the Pentagon set, for him it was key.
  • He and Carter showed the pilot to two executives. They expected or wanted more humor, they were looking at each other, trying to anticipate the audience reaction.
  • They really didn’t expect success, even after it came out.
  • He thinks Carter was genius keeping Mulder and Scully apart.
  • He has bumped into Duchovny since.

https://linktr.ee/heythatsmepod

Interview: Glen Morgan on Gold Derby

Another recent interview with Glen Morgan on The X-Files, this time text-based and not an audio podcast, on the website Gold Derby. Many points repeat the Strange Arrivals interview I covered recently, or other past interviews. Here are some tidbits that sound new to me:

On the monsters-of-the-week: “Chris would’ve done UFO episodes every week. The network didn’t want that. They wanted a monster show. I remember being in the office late at night — which was like a box; it was just a dump on the Fox lot — and we’re just sitting there trying to think of ideas.”

On 1X02: Squeeze: “Regarding the 30 years, my brother told me, “I think that you stole a Night Stalker. There was a thing where there was a guy who comes out every 30 or 50 years.” I’m like, “What?!” We loved that show with Darren McGavin. The episodes weren’t readily available until recently, so I don’t know if I lodged that in my subconscious. Chris had been in France, and he was fascinated by how they make foie gras, so that’s where it came about that Tooms ate livers.”

On 1X20: Tooms: “Skinner was named after my mom’s friend.”

On 1X07: Ice: “When I was a kid, there was an unknown movie called Report to the Commissioner, and at the end of the trailer, the two people were in an elevator with guns on each other. That image had a big effect on me — so let’s do that!”

On 1X12: Beyond the Sea: “we wanted to introduce [Scully] to the possibility of a paranormal event. We felt that the one thing that people might be open to is wanting to see a loved one that had moved along. The experience has a great deal of watching my mom when my grandfather passed away.”

On 2X14: Die Hand Die Verletzt: “John Bartley was the director of photography, and he lit that fourth act essentially with two flashlights, which were I think $3,000 each and the wire went up Duchovny’s coat. It was not done on TV where an entire act was just that level of darkness.”

On 4X03: Home: “My grandmother and grandfather, my mom’s parents, lived in Rochester, and they had a family next door who was a very nice family, maybe a little chaotic, named the Peacocks. I just thought, what a great name, and so we named [the “Home” family] the Peacocks.”

Eleanor Infante interview

Still trying to catch up with recent interviews — here is one with Eleanor Infante, editor of 4 episodes in The X-Files season 11, with the “Hey Danny, it’s Mulder” podcast. Some interesting insights here:

  • She talks about working within the strict boundaries of length for commercial cuts in network television, as opposed to much more flexibility in streaming. [I think that can be negative as much as positive, as it inserts tightness in script and editing.]
  • Glen Morgan brought her to TXF. They did “Lore” together before (and worked on “The Twilight Zone” since).
  • She had never watched the show. As she was editing her episodes, she was watching a top 30 of episodes as per a list by Vulture.
  • Interesting difference in working methods between the two brothers: Glen lets editor give him what she wants, he is a collaborator, he takes what others suggest; whereas Darin is very specific about what he wants, she was a help for his vision.
  • 11X02: This: for the group approaching the Mulder & Scully house in the teaser, Glen was inspired by Peter Weir’s “Witness”, with the dread of the cops approaching the Amish. He also wanted to use the Ramones song.
  • 11X04: The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat: Darin is a perfectionist genius. He is all about language, rhythm. He sat with her and went through all the takes. She was the one who suggested to him that they use the a capella version of the main theme!
  • 11X07: Rm9…/Followers: she had fun inserting draft sounds in the editing, Glen liked almost everything, then the sound department replicated it. The voice of the AI would have been Stephen Hawking himself, they were talking with his estate, but he was ill [he died just months later, in March 2018].
  • 11X10: My Struggle IV: Build trust with the director-producer to take initiative, and move things around even if it was not scripted. She did that in this episode. Carter asked her to do an audio commentary of the episode.

Interview: co-exec producer Michael Watkins

A rare interview with Michael W. Watkins with the Danish Sammensværgelsen/Conspiracy podcast! With Bernadette “Bernie” Caulfield, together they replaced Bob Goodwin as one of the show’s most important roles: co-executive producers, the people who really run the day-to-day business of managing the production. He worked in The X-Files season 6 and half of season 7. He also directed 6 TXF episodes (Dreamland II, Tithonus, Arcadia, The Sixth Extinction II: Amor Fati, Sein und Zeit, X-Cops) and also one Millennium episode (Sacrament in s1). A key person in making the show, but he has done very few interviews on it! Some notes from the interview:

  • Shift from Vancouver to LA: he personally recruited some 270 crew members (!): 1st unit + 2nd unit + 3rd unit for pick-ups and inserts. He hired everyone apart from stunt coordinator Danny Weselis, a friend of Kim Manners’. He was on set every day, shuttling from set to location to 2nd unit. It took a lot of energy and time.
  • It was challenging from the start: having to make a nuclear pool for 6X01: The Beginning.
  • 6X02: Drive: Vince Gilligan was the first to adapt to the new setting of the landscape of California.
  • 6X03: Triangle: a huge production, they put a tarp over Queen Mary, they had power shut down at night at Long Beach, they had generators to pour water over the ship, they painted the water green.
  • 6X15 Arcadia: they were ashamed of the monster, they called him “Fecal Fred”, they tried but it was awful, it was cut out.
  • 7X12: X-Cops: they put the cop car on a gimble to tumble it, they were running around at 2 am, they used a real drug shooting house, Duchovny improvised lines and hummed the “Bad Boys” theme, they had weird extras, they were making it up as they went along and were using the surprise effect on the actors as things were happening.
  • He followed the show from its start. Director of Photography John Bartley used to be a gaffer working for him, he was a DOP himself before becoming a director. [IMDb has one collaboration between them, the 1984 TV movie “The Glitter Dome“.] He is also friends with DOP Joel Ransom. He talks about the lighting choices for the show, not in your face, you didn’t see everything.
  • He enjoyed a lot working with David Duchovny, helping him with directing.
  • He left the show to try something new, Steven Spielberg sent him a script for a pilot. [This ended up to just a TV movie, the 2001 Marine Corps movie “Semper Fi“.] His long-time partner Bernie Caulfield left the show together with him. [They were replaced by Harry Bring and Michelle MacLaren as co-executive producers.]

https://sammensvaergelsen.libsyn.com/interview-michael-w-watkins-producer-director

Chris Carter and Glen Morgan on Strange Arrivals

Here are two older interviews (November-December 2020) that came to my attention recently: Chris Carter and Glen Morgan on Strange Arrivals, a podcast researching the UFO phenomenon. As always, some interesting thoughts here, and some surprising musings from these creators looking back at what made The X-Files the success it became.

Chris Carter

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-strange-arrivals-59865365/episode/interview-2-chris-carter-85918210/

  • Big influence: “The Silence of the Lambs”.
  • He turned the tables on gender on who would be stereotypically believer and skeptic.
  • He had been reading the UFO literature before writing the Pilot; his 3 “go to guys” were John Mack, David Jacobs, Budd Hopkins. [The 3 collaborated in the Roper survey on alien abductions that Carter used to pitch The X-Files to Fox.] What interested him was that these people doubted themselves, that they were smart people conducting a serious investigation.
  • If you watch the Pilot + “Deep Throat” + “The Erlenmeyer Flask” “you will get a foundational view of The X-Files mythology”.
  • TXF was about “imagining the world before disclosure”. [“Disclosure” is a UFO literature term for the secret of alien contact being revealed to the public.]
  • When they started, he didn’t want to show an alien for 5 years; but that lasted just a year, they showed an alien in 2X01: “Little Green Men”.
  • Mulder and Scully’s investigations: they present theories to each other, are competitive, “it became a 9-year flirtation, a seduction of sorts”.
  • The disclaimer in the Pilot about being based on actual documented cases was asked to be added by the network. It was a hard sales pitch to get the network to understand that it’s better to be left wondering at the end of the episode instead of wrapping everything in a neat bow.
  • Mythology: he was trying to create a sense of awe, the idea that science doesn’t have all the answers, that religion either, that there are things beyond the pale.
  • He has a Scully bias, a prove it to me philosophy. He is skeptical, but he has met so many people who believe in the story that they tell. “Who am I to question them?” He sat on a regression hypnosis session during the time the show was being produced, it was powerful and vivid.
  • He got very lucky in getting the writers he did. The characters developed over time, everyone added in nuances. But the fundamentals were there from the beginning.
  • The appeal of the alien stories is the fear of the other, the unknown of whether they have a good or evil intent.
  • On wanting to declassify UFO documents: Clinton, Obama, now Rubio, they are a long line of people who want to know.
  • While TXF was about a file cabinet full of the unknown, it was really about Mulder and Scully and their relationship. [Whatever you want to say about Carter styming the relationship, he is clear-sighted about what made the show what it became and what it’s remembered for.]
  • He singles out production designers Michael Nemirsky (Pilot) and Graeme Murray (seasons 1-5, with things like the examination table in “Duane Barry”), they made better things than what the writers imagined.
  • A Fox executive literally wanted Gillian Anderson fired because she was pregnant.
  • He read all of Sherlock Holmes as a kid, it was a big influence on Mulder and Scully’s dynamic.

Glen Morgan

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-strange-arrivals-59865365/episode/interview-5-glen-morgan-86644852/

  • He grew up in Syracuse, NY: there were cult groups, mediums, seances in the area, his family were all believers in paranormal. He only started considering the skeptic side due to his work on TXF, writing for Scully.
  • He read “Chariots of the Gods” when he was young, he was into NASA space exploration, loved “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” and “The UFO Incident” [1975 TV movie, a representation of the famous 1961 Hills alien abduction incident, with James Earl Jones], he grew up with all the monster movies and paranoid movies (“All the President’s Men”, “The Parallax View”, “Klute”), “The Twilight Zone”.
  • The network didn’t want a UFO story every week, they wanted Mulder and Scully to help people. The writers brainstormed and came up with the monster-of-the-week format.
  • They all came up together with the idea of Scully’s disappearance to cover for Gillian’s pregnancy. They never set out to be serialized, it was brought up by necessity. Write, then just think about what happens next, figure it out, bring ideas. There was no writers’ room.
  • The XF mythology made new stuff up compared to the established UFO lore in order to have something fresh for TV, which eventually became difficult to manage.
  • He went to a UFO community show in the Los Angeles airport with writer Marilyn Osborne. There were the exact prototypes for the Lone Gunmen there, down to the “Byers” taking out the magnetic strip out of a dollar bill. He discovered there was a whole industry around UFOs!
  • Carter was the one with the deeper UFO research.
  • He read the Science News publication every week for ideas. There was a story about Greenland ice core deep drilling. You take two truth, make stuff up, you make an X-File (like Deep Throat’s quote from “E.B.E.”). He sees that approach in modern myth: people believe in made-up stuff.
  • The best thing Carter did was “I want to believe”: everybody wants to believe, even the hardcore scientists.
  • “If TXF played any part in the proliferation of this conspiracy stuff, I’d have big regrets.” It’s now ridiculously out of hand, it’s no longer for entertainment.
  • When they started the show, Scully would never see an alien ever. But by episode 12 she was seeing the ghost of her father. Mulder is the interesting character; as the show goes on, Scully bends towards Mulder, otherwise the show would have become “Scooby Doo”. Scully experienced things, that’s the benefit and necessity of a TV series, to keep conflict and momentum.
  • Mythology over time: in the 1930s, the scientist was bad (“Frankenstein”, “The Invisible Man”). In the 1950s, the scientist is creating the trouble and solving it, there was trust in government. 1960s, “The Andromeda Strain”, Vietnam, 1970s, “Close Encounters”, “Star Wars”. Where are we now? How to create a myth about the pandemic? [interview recorded November 2020] Storytelling-wise, you would never come up with a head of a country that is obstructing it. What is it about science and conspiracy, what is it telling us? Where were we then? What does that type of story tell us about where we are now? [All of these are excellent questions and a great way to think of the show in its historical context. These are things any reboot would have to consider and find a reason for its existence — good luck!]